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UPDATE (27 April): We reached out to Reverend Father John Berg, the Superior General of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, asking him to comment on the recent Father Gerstle interview. SSPX:perfectly ok FSSP: very good. I think they both play an important part in Divine Providence. Both are trad. 8 See St Augustine, de peccatorum meritis et remissione, III 6.12. Certain elements of the new liturgy could be “enriching for the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite.”, Moreover, Father Gerstle also explains that, in the German district, there are growing numbers of faithful who are interested in the traditional Tridentine Mass. Novelty has always been the sign of heresy. “All in all we have a good number of incomers [16 new priests in 2016 and currently some 100 seminarians altogether], but it is not so that we are under pressure due to high numbers of vocations.”. Browse here for SSPX Mass Centers, schools and retreat houses all around the world! The training and support of a Priest. This is a most grave sin against the First Commandment. Gerstle also insists that the FSSP does not “wish to polarize or even to promote splits,” but that they wish to instill in their own parishes “an ecclesial attitude.” Certain (unnamed, unspecified) abuses in the Church should only be criticized in a “differentiated and moderate way.”, Father Gerstle also distances himself from the concept “traditionalist” when he says: “This notion I do not like at all to hear. Infallible sentences are unreformable “ex sese” says Vatican I (Dz. Religious freedom and ecumenism undermine this Catholic principle, and thus undermines the faith of millions; the first victims are among the clergy, precisely because teaching error makes them the first casualties of these errors. - A man of the Church, missionary, founder of the SSPX - a man who helped preserve the tradition of the Church after Vatican II, The structure of authority of the SSPX, the practical organization of the members into various divisions and its essential works, The SSPX: its view on the current situation of the Church and its unique answer on how to "Restore all things in Christ", The Society of Saint Pius X is an international priestly society that promotes the traditional Catholic priesthood, the sound doctrine, and the celebration of the traditional Latin Mass and sacraments, See a list of SSPX chapels in the Asian District: their contact information and Mass schedules, See a list of SSPX schools in the Asian District: their contact information and the grade levels taught in each school. Whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven” The Pope is Christ’s Vicar. #74 – Archbishop Viganò & The Great Reset (With Jimmy Emmons). But to claim that all this authentic magisterium is infallible is not traditional teaching. However without good bishops, a seminary could not form good priests—at the time of the ordination, the ordaining bishop could easily say: unless you accept this or that, you won’t be ordained. And one would easily present more reasons. The FSSP, on the other hand, are fully in communion with Rome (in fact, some have even gotten permission from the Holy See to use pre-1955 versions of Holy Week--joke's on the SSPX who think they're more hardcore :P). That’s not why the SSPX does not recommend the FSSP. SSPX claims to believe in the Pope but are not obedient to him. He spread horribly things about the Pope- he is definitely guilt y of detraction - and possibly calumny - what a shame to make others believe the worst about the Pope. Father Bernhard Gerstle – the head of the German district of the FSSP – just gave a 24 April interview to the German Bishops’ official website in which he explains many of the positions and opinions of his priestly fraternity. Here we come to a second principle that is at the root of the separation of the FSSP from the SSPX. Not counting the moral problems in the clergy (not only paedophilia, homosexuality, but also concubinage and dereliction of duty such as the duty to hear confessions), which moral problems are consequences of the loss of spiritual life often due to the worldly orientations given by the Council, the major problem of the church today is the loss of Faith both in the faithful and the clergy, perhaps even more in the clergy.[2]. Refuting Pseudo-Traditionalist Michael Matt of the Remnant. ), The usually cautious and reserved Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) has now given its current opinion concerning the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and on its possible formal re-integration into the structures of the Catholic Church. Now the Catholic Faith is taught by the Catholic Church—that means, by the bishops and the pope who are the teaching Church, and by the priests who are their helpers, and also by parents to their children, etc. The Society is in essence apostolic and is aimed at the salvation of souls. I then excluded the first option, saying that, if both are damned, I really did not know where to turn myself! It was in his magazine that the Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre of November 21, 1974 was published for the first time. A judge carefully weighs each word of a sentence, which he wants as concise and clear as possible, pronounces his sentence once, and does not repeat himself. 1P5 Podcast Ep. Pronouncements of the ordinary magisterium, on the contrary, are not infallible ex sese: precisely because it belongs to the nature of teaching (magisterium) to include repetition. It should be noted that the SSPX explicitly tell their followers to avoid the FSSP explicitly because the FSSP are fully regular with Rome and therefore can't be trusted. Just because they don’t like the new Mass - it doesn’t mean it’s evil. SSPX is sketchy and it’s status is unclear. “Radical Catholic”) has published a full translation of Fr. But is not the pope also sometimes infallible in the exercise of his ordinary magisterium? 2:2-3). Yet at Assisi, Buddhists were given by the pope a Catholic church to perform their worship! However, some texts are formulated in such a way that they can give way to misinterpretations. Press J to jump to the feed. God have mercy on them. 5:10): the Catholic Faith is not optional, but obligatory. Faith. Also, the very fact of lowering the standards[6] makes it clear that one does not intend to pronounce a supreme sentence, which would bind the Church until the end of times—indeed judgements are acts of prudence, and one cannot have low standards of prudence for a supreme judgement. The FSSP, on the other hand, are fully in communion with Rome (in fact, some have even gotten permission from the Holy See to use pre-1955 versions of Holy Week--joke's on the SSPX who think they're more hardcore :P). Worth noting is that, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, who has served as an official Vatican liaison to the SSPX, recently called this act of excommunication an “injustice.”) In Gerstle’s eyes, the 1988 breach happened due to a “lack of trust toward Rome.” He also claims that many more priests within the SSPX had disapproved of the episcopal consecrations, “but did not make the final step.” Thus, there were “only a few priests and seminarians who left the Society of St. Pius X at the time [in 1988].” Gerstle explicitly says that the foundation of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter happened “essentially due to Cardinal Ratzinger, [who was] then head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.”, Image and caption courtesy of November Indulgences For The Poor Souls In Purgatory Extended This Year. 6 E.g., in the case of the new canonisations, where the requirements for miracles were dispensed, etc. Now that was really not honest, because if they had objections to the names he had already given, they had had many months to tell him before the Protocol! So fidelity is the one quality that he requires in the ministers of Christ, i.e., the priests, bishops and above all of them, the popes; that fidelity can be summed up in these other words of St. Paul: “I delivered unto you first of all, which I also received—tradidi quod et accepi” (I Cor. On the contrary, a teacher who would not repeat himself would not be a good teacher! The crisis of Faith, which the Church is passing through now, comes from the very fact that those whose mission is to teach the Faith often fail to do so. They received papal approval, and tried to do what the SSPX was doing. And the. Catholic Christianity offers the world the fullness of the Christian Faith. 2 Scott Hahn himself—who cannot be accused of being a traditional Catholic—mentions “Catholics who had abandoned their Faith but who would not relinquish their positions of power.” Rome, Sweet Home, p.119-120. Her articles have appeared in American and European journals such as, LifeSiteNews, The Wanderer, Culture Wars, Catholic Family News, Christian Order, Apropos, and Zeit-Fragen. And error in matter of Faith is not something of no importance, it is a very grave evil that can lead to eternal damnation. 5 Note that even during and after the Consecrations, Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X have continued to hold that principle, and have continued to reject sedevacantism in all its forms; but we also hold with St. Thomas that one can recognise the possession of authority and yet resist an abuse of that authority: indeed St. Thomas teaches that it is the same moral virtue of obedience that avoids and the default of disobedience (not to execute legitimate orders) and the excess of servility (to execute illegitimate orders) (See Ia IIae q.64 a.1, IIa IIae q.104 a.5). Pope John Paul took away Marcel’s power to say Mass. They are growing and have a full seminary in the U.S. as well as lots of apostolates and new ones cropping up all the time. Thus one can say that fidelity is the criteria of the ordinary and universal magisterium: one recognizes that what a pope says, what a bishop says belongs to that ordinary and universal magisterium when one can see that he is faithfully transmitting that which he has received.

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